Chapter Nine: page 11

posted 9th Feb 2017, 5:26 PM

Chapter Nine: page 11
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9th Feb 2017, 5:26 PM

Saeriellyn

Good Smeagol always helps!!...oh wait, wrong fantasy.

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9th Feb 2017, 6:04 PM

Drumistry58

At least the girl gets it, haha. And she is not as judgmental it seems.

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9th Feb 2017, 6:26 PM

Saeriellyn

She is practical. She also didn't have him try to throttle her six chapters ago, so there's that. :D

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9th Feb 2017, 6:38 PM

krblack42

The similarities with The Lord of the Rings have never bothered me, because I found Prydain first. They sure can be spotted, though! I think it's charming the way LOTR is blended with Welsh mythology and Lloyd Alexander's own sensibility which can be traced in his other writing, and it comes out as something new (but not entirely unfamiliar).

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9th Feb 2017, 8:17 PM

Saeriellyn

Oh, no, they don't bother me either. I don't think Alexander was copying from Tolkein at all - they were simply both working with the same archetypes and myth structure. I just made the comment because you know SOMEone is going to, sometime, so might as well beat them to the punchline.

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10th Feb 2017, 12:15 AM

krblack42

Oh, some things can't be coincidental! The voyage to the Summer Country at the end of the series. The whole setup of the rustic innocent journeying out into the wide world to grow and learn life lessons while fighting against a mysterious Dark Lord who is never seen, but functions as a all-purpose symbol to embody evil. It's hard to realize now, but fantasy wasn't like that at all before Tolkien came along. It was all Conan and Elric of Melnibone and Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser. But if Prydain is derivative of LOTR, it's derivative in a good way, borrowing inspiration but bringing its own vision and inspiration to the table (unlike The Sword of Shannara, which tried to just rewrite the story, leave out the poems, and change all the names).

I find it interesting that Tolkien based his story on the backdrop of mythology from The Silmarillion tales that he had been writing on the side for fun for several decades; Lloyd Alexander used Welsh Mythology instead as his backdrop and fount of inspiration. In both cases it gives the work a special character, depth, and feeling of rich backstory just under the surface.

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12th Feb 2017, 8:46 AM

Nef

Funny thing: I was reading it and it sounded more like Dobby in my head, until you said Sméagol... That broke the spell ;)

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9th Feb 2017, 6:40 PM

LMS

You may or may not remember me, but I remember you from FF.net, and you may or may not have inspired me to pick up my copy of Black Cauldron and start work again on the alt-POV telling of that one I put down years ago.

Confession time: I've been lurking forever. Since November, at least. Maybe longer. Your artwork on this is absolutely gorgeous. I really look forward to updates. They're a highlight of my day. On this page I love how Taran's just so unimpressed, and I love how much fun you have with Gurgi's dramatics, and the way you make his lines LOOK different.

Anyway, just wanted to tell you I'm appreciating.

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9th Feb 2017, 8:24 PM

Saeriellyn

Oh of course I remember you! I'm so tickled to know you're following this. Not to mention that you might revisit a fanfic idea. You're the one who inspired my own story along the same concept, and it's a project I've enjoyed immensely - I could hardly forget that! (Though I deliberately stopped reading yours for fear I'd be subconsciously influenced, so that's why I quit reviewing - my apologies for that.)

So glad to hear you're enjoying this, and thanks for commenting. :) Good to hear from both old fans and new.

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9th Feb 2017, 9:48 PM

joeyballast

I'm LOVING the fur and general dishevelment of Gurgi. What kind of brush/technique are you using? I always have a tough time with those kinds of textures.

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10th Feb 2017, 5:39 PM

Saeriellyn

They aren't my favorite thing either. I enjoy depicting Gurgi's personality via body language but I dread his arrival because his textures take me forever to render, or at least it feels that way compared to all the others. The brushes do help, though.

Right now I use a combination of stuff from here, mainly the "clumped fur" and "clumped fur directional" and "edge fur" brushes. This whole set is fantastic, in fact; if you stare long enough you'll see several others that I've used extensively on other pages, from grass and brush to lightning and flame FX, and it's FREE which makes me feel a little guilty. All for Manga Studio/Clip Studio, not Photoshop.

His leafy detritus is the "dead leaves" brush that comes with Manga Studio. I think there's another textural brush in there too, depicting the glow light, one of the Frenden concept brushes I'm pretty sure. (Google him, lots of nice painterly brushes but they aren't free.)

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10th Feb 2017, 11:32 PM

joeyballast

Very cool! I will take a look at those.

Thanks!

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9th Feb 2017, 10:44 PM

Centcomm

Very nice work - i love this!

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10th Feb 2017, 4:41 AM

Saeriellyn

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10th Feb 2017, 3:56 AM

RHYMESOFTHERENEGADES

Based on his attire, Taran has upgraded from 'dungeon prisoner' to 'jedi padawan'

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10th Feb 2017, 4:39 AM

Saeriellyn

Isn't it amazing what a borrowed cloak and sword belt can do?

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11th Feb 2017, 12:03 AM

Odd May

I love Gurgi's font! And yay, now we have the whole gang together! Adventure lies in yonder glade! Huzzah!

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13th Feb 2017, 2:54 PM

Saeriellyn

Woot! Well, excluding Doli, but I always consider him rather peripheral to be honest.

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11th Feb 2017, 1:49 PM

Lori

Love it all. Gurgi is taking some getting used to for me, as I picture him very differently. But all we really got from LA was that he was sort of human, sort of creature, and a hairy leafy mess. And I think he was small in stature, since he rode a shaggy pony. I envision him as more monkey-ish, or maybe like Cousin It. Gurgi probably looks different in everyone's imagination. It would be fun to see all the different Gurgi versions in people's minds.

Is Dyrnwyn under Eilonwy's cloak? She never lets go of it. I'm looking forward to the Dyrnwyn argument. "Beware my wrath, the usual sentiments..." :)

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11th Feb 2017, 2:34 PM

Saeriellyn

Ah yes, Gurgi is a sticky point with many. I think he's pretty big, since there are indications later that the guys worry about Melyngar's stamina as she carries both Eilonwy and him, and their combined weight shouldn't really be a big deal unless Gurgi's is substantial. And then later on we have him holding his own in battle. My choice to lean on a canine design over a simian one is very deliberate for a lot of reasons, not least because Alexander himself is quoted as saying he found the name Gurgi in some piece of literature that described a "hideous gray dog-man". All Gurgi's mannerisms smack of dog to me, and once I found pictures of Irish wolfhounds (which are huge) that sealed the deal.

In my mind Eilonwy took off Dyrnwyn to put her cloak on and then was interrupted by Gurgi's arrival. She'll put it back on in a second. Remember nobody knows yet how dangerous it is, and Taran's not yet interested in it, which is her motivation for guarding it so closely.

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11th Feb 2017, 5:47 PM

Lori

That's cool. I didn't know about the "gurgi" research of LA. That does change things a lot for me. And Gurgi certainly does act like a worried and rejected dog, desperately wanting people to like him.

Ha, true enough about Eilonwy being much more possessive of Dyrnwyn once Taran tried to get his hands on it. Those kids do squabble!

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13th Feb 2017, 7:18 AM

CM

I always thought of Gurgi as being a woodwose--at least, I did once I learned what a woodwose was. Or, when I wit what a woodwose was I wondered if this were what he was.

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13th Feb 2017, 2:53 PM

Saeriellyn

Ooooh, keep slaying me with your poetic consonance. "I'm willing to tell ya...I'm wantin' to tell ya...I'm WAITIN' to tell ya!" -Alfie Dolittle, My Fair Lady, "that's the Welsh strain in him", according to Henry Higgins. :) No wonder you fit in around here.

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16th Feb 2017, 8:47 PM

Rob S.

Ooh! I love how your work on Gurgi has evolved! Nice textures!

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23rd Mar 2017, 11:27 AM

mjkj

Well, at least they can rest now...

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