Chapter Seventeen: page 2
posted 19th Jun 2022, 5:02 PM
19th Jun 2022, 5:02 PM
Saeriellyn
This one is messy and a little phoned-in in spots, and I apologize. I am, after over ten years, approaching burnout, and sometimes am choosing between fine-tuning and never finishing. Thanks, all of you who are still following! I am touched by your patience.
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19th Jun 2022, 5:43 PM
Skyboy91
Well, you wouldn't know you were burned out from this page! It's beautifully done. The gwythaint is spot on đ and the colors really pop. I especially like the grim, shadowed, upward looking expression that Doli has in the last panel...very foreboding and just perfect for this scene.
20th Jun 2022, 11:47 AM
Saeriellyn
Yes that last panel came out really nicely. I think it's my favorite bit of this page.
19th Jun 2022, 6:50 PM
Carol (Guest)
Thank you for continuing. I appreciate all the work you put into the fandom. Hope you can find some ways to un-burn out over the summer. And I agree, it doesn't looked phoned in at all - great as always.
20th Jun 2022, 11:48 AM
Saeriellyn
Oh, I'll always do fandom! It's just /this/ project in particular has begun to feel endless, when I have so many other irons in the fire that are more finishable. Maybe it's partially that I'm a bit dreading the upcoming battle scenes, as those tend to be not my strong point. I'll keep hacking away! It might just also be my zigzagging mental health talking. :P
28th Jun 2022, 9:39 AM
Leader Dessler
As for the battle scenes, you may always chose the Shakespearean approach: Make they happen off-stage and your observers comment on them.
28th Jun 2022, 11:39 AM
Saeriellyn
I like the Alexandrian approach, which is to make your hero pass out until the battle is over, but I still have to get him to that point. đ
19th Jun 2022, 11:12 PM
Guest
Always nice to see a new page! I wish you could see it through /our/ eyes, though, and share the thrill instead of noticing the fine-tuning you chose not to do. This is a great depiction of what turns out to be a pivotal point in Taranâs fate. The charactersâ expressions convey so well all of the mixed emotions at play.
I laughed aloud at Eilonwyâs line about Achren â /totally/ forgot about it. Such a Lloydian moment of humor amidst the drama. đ
20th Jun 2022, 11:49 AM
Saeriellyn
Imagine someone telling Achren that, later. "Yeah she said you look like a gwythaint." I mean, I probably have days my eyes look like that. XD
20th Jun 2022, 7:59 PM
Honzinator
In re those eyes ... I saw a bumper sticker recently that read, "Try me not. - Mom, 24:7"
21st Jun 2022, 3:08 AM
Guest
20th Jun 2022, 4:08 AM
Kristofilus
[A string chord from some Ennio Morricone score blares as Doli leans into the penumbral setting with steely determination]
I'm not looking forward to what happens soon... but I'm here for it.
20th Jun 2022, 7:03 AM
Peter Wulfdane
Don't burn out yet! Your flame still shines brightly across the wastelands of Prydain fandom, where nought is bright and glorious save your timeless work.
...which is my way of saying yours is the best artwork I have seen of Lloyd's world, and it would be a shame to see that bright and shining light go out. Keep it up, this page is lovely!
20th Jun 2022, 11:50 AM
Saeriellyn
Thanks, Peter. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere...I just wish these last few chapters weren't so intimidating!
20th Jun 2022, 9:31 AM
Guest
(NotTheHarp) Your marathon is a long one and you are still continuing, it is already a huge achievement. But it is not a marathon with a fastest winner so take your time and afford to be messy when you want. We are happy to see your work whenever it is ready, or ready enough.
Last panel is great, don't want to meet him in a dark alley at night, as we say in Dutch. He has the low sun behind him, shining bright on his earring, making him extra scary! I also like the asymmetrical design of the axe!
20th Jun 2022, 11:53 AM
Saeriellyn
Thank you, Harp. That axe gave me fits! I dislike drawing mechanical, symmetrical things in general, so I got around the need for symmetry at least.
By the way, thank you for your message at fanfiction.net - I am sorry I haven't had the chance to read your new chapters yet! I just started a new job and am working 30 hours a week, so I'm still settling into my new schedule and trying to fit everything in. I'm so happy you are still writing and I will check it out soon.
20th Jun 2022, 12:17 PM
Guest
20th Jun 2022, 6:41 PM
CM (Guest)
Here till the end, whatever way that comes about!
I never get over the Doll-bulging-eyes-anger thing you do. It's hilarious and so well-executed.
20th Jun 2022, 7:57 PM
Honzinator (Guest)
It may not be up to your standards in your eyes, but it gets the point across ... and the flat of the blade ... such that I'd assumed your choices intentional. And that's when I consider this one of my favourite scenes in all the books.
Perhaps drawing under the halls of the Mountain King (I've got Grieg on my mind) led you too far into "Difficult Art". Your secondary strength is greatest in the expressions and staging ... and your primary strength is in your understanding of and love for the text.
In other words, be ye not so harde upon thyself. Verily, regrets anticipated weight like a mountain but in memory become like unto a mote fallen from a sparrow's eye, of no import, like blathering upon the wind. Here endeth the cheering session. Well, ... rah, rah. NOW here endeth the cheering session.
20th Jun 2022, 7:57 PM
michasarah
I still get very happy when there is a page update! This doesn't look phoned in at all, the composition is fantastic. Some of the finishing touches aren't there - like the brush strokes are a bit broader and not fine-tuned as usual I suppose (I don't know how to say this in digital art-relevant words...). But the atmospherics and composition are wonderful. Really, really like the perspective in the last panel with Doli. I can see how the remaining chapters in the book would seem intimidating, but I can't wait to see them. I think trying to convey the rising tension over the next few chapters would be daunting.
I'm curious how you plan out future pages - do you sketch out a whole chapter when you begin it? Or do you really go page by page? Kind of curious if you already know how many comic pages are left in this chapter? The book?
21st Jun 2022, 12:50 AM
Saeriellyn
I really just take it a page at a time, looking for where the dramatic beats are in the narrative. Sometimes that makes for a very short page and sometimes a long one. Now and then I even go back and add panels where I feel like there should be a longer pause or reaction. Itâs very intuitiveâŚwhich works well for the story but not for getting it done with any time goals in mind!
20th Jun 2022, 9:14 PM
Ragnar_Deerslayer (Guest)
Thanks for another great page!
If you're feeling burnt out, just set it aside. Seriously. We have the books. This is more enjoyable when we know it's a labor of love and joy, not of tedium and self-sacrifice.
Also, might I suggest, as a break, a series of black-and-white concept sketches from The Black Cauldron? (Not that you'd do a graphic novel of that. I just want to see your interpretation of Gwystyl.)
I recently started reading the Chronicles to my boys (ages 9 and 7) and they're loving it. I made sure to show them some of your pages, so they would have a correct idea of what the characters look like (contra the Disney Abomination).
Thanks again for all your work!
21st Jun 2022, 12:38 AM
Saeriellyn
Oh I lay it aside all the time - thatâs part of the problem! I keep piling on other work instead of concentrating on one thing at a time.
I hope your kiddos take to it! Itâs so delightful to be able to share these stories.
21st Jun 2022, 3:13 AM
drs (Guest)
21st Jun 2022, 11:11 AM
Saeriellyn
I used to dream of that, but no, almost certainly not. I will likely do short segments of my favorite parts, though.
22nd Jun 2022, 3:37 AM
AcesHigh
is it burnout or just anticipation of the end? We're only a couple chapters out from concluding The Book of Three so I think a little bit of corner-cutting is excusable. Besides, everything has improved over the years so much that a "lazy update" still looks better than some of the first updates from chapter 1 XD
22nd Jun 2022, 10:51 AM
Saeriellyn
You're not wrong! If I thought I was going to get to the end soon it might be a factor, but at the rate I'm going we've got another couple years at least. :P
22nd Jun 2022, 5:11 PM
Honzinator
Heh heh heh ... Excellent.
Yes, I am alternately rubbing my palms together and twiddling my fingers menacingly. If only I had a proper moustache to twirl! Oh the inanity!
23rd Jun 2022, 1:24 PM
rjschwabe (Guest)
We all love what you do. I come back because you bring life to a favorite fantasy novel of my youth (that I continue to be astounded that no one has been able to translate well to another media).
That being said, if you're hitting burn out, please do what you need to do for yourself.
If that's take a full hiatus, do it...
If that's ending the comic, do it... (I know you're close, but still)
You've already lovingly crafted something that has brought joy to me, and I suspect to many others. And you've done this without a paywall or receiving direct payment from any of us. (I mean, we all know why, but still)
You don't owe us anything.
Of course I (and the rest of us) would be disappointed. But just because you're somewhat close to the end, doesn't mean that you have to finish it.
(Hell, I wish you could do the whole series as your job... Think you could get away with your own webcomic series featuring the adventures of an Assistant Sheep Farmer named Karan and a young sorceress named Beilonwy?)
Anyway, I hope this comes off as well-meaning. As much as I love the series, I want the creators I enjoy to be well.
Take care,
Robert
26th Jun 2022, 2:04 PM
Saeriellyn
Thank you, Robert, this was so sweet.
I realized this week that it's not this project that's burning me out as much as all the other projects I had on my plate. I expound on this more on the next page, but...suffice to say I am learning where I need to stop digging holes I can't climb out of, and laying down the shovel. A good lesson, for many areas of life.
25th Jun 2022, 5:02 PM
Perey (Guest)
I feel a little bad for only commenting once, way back on⌠oh, wow, it was #181 (chapter 12 page 14), four years ago!
I have been following your progress faithfully ever since then, thanks to the wonders of RSS feeds. Yes, those are still absolutely a thing, even though the internet keeps trying to move on to newfangled ways of subscribing, following, etc.
I fully understand the feeling of approach burnoutâoh, how well I know it and loathe it! I wish there was something I could do to help encourage you. Well, I suppose there is: comment more. I shall do my very best to do so.
Incidentally, searching for that one comment gave me a delightful opportunity to reread the whole thing up to that point. Which has also made me dig out my copy of The Book of Three, from a book room still not properly unpacked since moving house in March, and start reading it again. So thank you for that.
Iâm no art critic, and itâs taken that reread for me to be able to see what youâre talking about when you call this page âmessy and a little phoned-inâ. Okay, yeah, I can pick the difference between this and, say, #169. But if I could turn out work this good on my bad daysâand if I could overcome impostor syndrome, andâŚ
Look, what Iâm trying to say is, youâre good. Really good. Your art is good, and you deserve to feel good about it. I know you often wonât, but I hope there are still many times when you do.
28th Jun 2022, 9:37 AM
Leader Dessler
I guess that's Doli's "My axe has cut nothing but wood since we left Moria" moment.
29th Jun 2022, 7:18 AM
Good Old Doli (Guest)
Just want to say thank you for continuing and I avidly follow every page! In this one I particularly love the two panels of the trio pending over and their eyes first looking at the gwythaint and then looking sideways at the sound of Doli pulling out his axe.
7th Jul 2022, 6:45 AM
Wenja (Guest)
29th Aug 2022, 7:53 PM
d_chall
16th Feb 2023, 5:32 PM
Rob S. (Guest)
Oh, wow! Two things I love here: Gurgi freaking the eff out in the first panel, and then Doli gets a hero shot. From below, he looks strong and heroic, but in shadow he looks absolutely dangerous -- a signal that his impulse is leading him to do the wrong thing. A really strong ending!
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